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ya so they are like needles... when do these drop out and the adult teeth come in?

As well, we're trying our darnest to stop the teething on our feet, hands, etc... not sure what the correction is for this? Trying the "NO" and OWW and ignoring. Hoping it's just a puppy thing !

tks !
(05-05-2010 05:44 PM)Marley and me Wrote: [ -> ]ya so they are like needles... when do these drop out and the adult teeth come in?

As well, we're trying our darnest to stop the teething on our feet, hands, etc... not sure what the correction is for this? Trying the "NO" and OWW and ignoring. Hoping it's just a puppy thing !

tks !

As well we just notices she's humping her teddy bear...is this normal??
8 weeks old
With Kahless we used positive reinforcement and praise to train him. In emergencies, "No!" (NOT shouted, just a firm "no!" in a normal voice) and substitution (gave him a frozen carrot or similar) as a training technique. We would substitute frozen carrots (etc) in place of our fingers. His aunt was a great teacher too. She was the picture of patience and love - she NEVER hurt him, or bit him. The most she would do early on is get up and walk away. A few months later she might bark and fake snap the air but never has she used any corporal punishment - nor have we.

Thankfully Kahless got through this period and learned what is acceptable and not acceptable to chew on. Plus, we have a collection of his baby teeth probably numbering about 10. He exchanged his baby teeth with the tooth fairy and got a new plush toy for each one we found.

Supervise your puppy while outdoors! Kahless tried to chew and eat rocks he would find laying around - these can cause vomiting and intestinal blockages - even death. You would be amazed at the size of objects they can swallow. In an emergency cover the nose with one hand, hold the top jaw firmly, use the other hand to hold the lower jaw and they will usually release the object in their mouth.

Puppy proof your home and any area he has access to. NO HARD PLASTIC CHEW TOYS OR ANYTHING HE CAN SWALLOW - these can cause intestinal blockages which may be fatal.

The humping is completely normal not to worry.
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Here are some tips:

Biting is most common in young puppies and new dogs
Especially in play and while teething. It's up to you to teach your puppy or dog what is acceptable and what is not. Most dogs and puppies are generally loving, sweet, adorable, affectionate and wonderful 99% of the time. Only 1% of the time does something specific happen that makes the dog bite. This article will discuss the causes of biting and what you can do to prevent your dog from biting.

Dogs and Puppies Must Learn to Inhibit Biting
First of all, dogs must learn to inhibit their bite before they are 4 months old. Normally, they would learn this from their mother, their littermates and other members of the pack. But, because we take them away from this environment before this learning is completed, we must take over the training.

Socialization Prevents Biting
By allowing your puppy to socialize with other puppies and socialized dogs they can pick up where they left off. Puppies need to roll, tumble and play with each other. When they play, they bite each other everywhere and anywhere. This is where they learn to inhibit their biting. This is where they learn to control themselves.

If they are too rough or rambunctious, they will find out because of how the other dogs and puppies react and interact with them. This is something that happens naturally and it is something we cannot accomplish. It can only be learned from trial and error. There is nothing you can say or do to educate them in this realm. They must learn from their own experience.

Quote:Yes, it is true. There is a part of every puppy's life that I could gladly live without. That maddening, frustrating, "must chew everything that isn't stapled to the ceiling", teething age.

When Kari first joined our household, I learned very quickly why some Beauceron folk referred to Beauceron puppies as "Alligator Pups". He ate everything. The entire bottom shelf, books included of my wooden bookcase, Barbies were constantly sacrificed to the puppy god, the wooden stair railing, my bent-wood rocking chair, a cell phone (snicker), two twenty dollar bills (although we stopped him before he ate the rest of the wallet), the inside of our sofa (??) and the bottom pieces of my rocker/recliner; apparently while he was supposedly dozing under my feet.

Limit His Freedom
The first thing to do with a teething puppy is look into crate training. Crating your puppy will keep him away from the deadly things he'd love to chew to pieces when you aren't looking (like electrical cords of appliances that are still plugged in. Ozzy - 3, Vacuum Cleaner - 0).

Show Him What to Chew
Chew toys, Bully Stix, and other gnaw-ables are going to be your best friends. I know it may be tempting to just let your pup chew on an old pair of socks, or old leather shoe, but try to resist. At this stage of your puppy's life, allowing one shoe or sock is tantamount to allowing ALL shoes and socks in his mind.

Positive Reinforcement
Positively reinforce chewing on things he is allowed to have with praise, and petting, and try to identify each item: "Is that your stick? Good boy!"

Negative Reinforcement
Negatively reinforce his chewing on inappropriate items by removing the item and saying "No, that is mine." and exchanging it with a proper chew toy: "Here is your ball, good boy!"

Frozen rubber teething rings will help ease the pain of cutting teeth when your pup has to be crated for safe-keeping while you are either busy or out.

There's no cure for the teething stage (unless you adopt an older dog), and it can last from age five months to over one year (or longer), but you can minimize the damage done. Be vigilant, remember my favorite mantra "This too, shall pass", and start collecting chew toys.
Good luck!
Well thank you Rob for all this information! Love the frozen carrot idea, so far I've given Marley the baby carrots...she has a ball with them then finally eats it. Today we found a dime in her mouth...that was quite scary, like the article..what next!
I feel this is the joy, challenge and self gratification if you can get through this stage without damanges both physically and material wise.
You're welcome Jill. This is a great time to get Marley used to a tooth brush also. And handle her feet so she gets used to that too. Then her pedicure won't hopefully will not be a problem later down the road.
I actually cut her toe nails yesterday while she was eating....kinda did both tasks at once, bugging her while she's eating and as far as the nails went she didn't even flinch....this was the 3rd time she's had them done! Have you tried the Pedipaws, just wondering if it was a gimmick or not...it seems kinda like the dremel tool suggested on this site..(I think I saw it) opposed to the standard dog clipper. Haven't done the teeth yet..I've never brushed any other dog's teeth before wasn't sure if I wanted to do this...
Wow! You're doing great! Glad to hear she didn't even flinch. While she is this young you can use a human toenail clipper assuming it's sharp. Just be very careful not to cut the "quick" or she will bleed and it might hurt. We keep styptic powder on hand just in case but haven't had to use it to stop the bleeding. Our breeder and several other Mastiff owners we know recommend the Miller's Forge nail clipper which you can get HERE. Or they have the heavy duty version for when she is full grown.

I have to chuckle about the Pedipaws - we actually tried one and what a joke! It takes forever to trim their nails on an adult or even a 6 month old Mastiff. Those commercials are very misleading. The Dremel is better but still too much work in my opinion. We pretty much tried everything and then asked around at the dog shows and the owner handlers we talked to mostly use the clippers. The Miller's Forge have a guide to help prevent cutting the quick.

Regarding the teeth, please get a toothbrush and toothpaste at your local pet store. Brush at least once a day. They do get plaque and gingivitus just like people do. Look at the bright side, you don't have to floss her teeth! LOL Wink The problem is that there are no dental "toys" that will survive a Mastiff's powerful jaws. If they swallow the chewed up dental toy they can die. Gingivitus will cause heart disease, this is a known fact. Brushing the teeth is very quick and easy and creates a bond with your little girl. We have 3 Mastiffs to brush daily it's not too much work believe me.
gee sometimes I don't even brush my own teeth every day (j/k of course)....now I have to do my dog's!! The vet gave us a toothbrusth, guess I'll get the paste next pet store visit. I figured since I didn't brush my last dog's teeth in 17 years, the Mastiff would be good (considering they don't live as long as that)... was ignorant to know they get more plaque than the average dog!

Robin you certainly are a great source of information and advice and I think we'll be chatting loads on here.... THANK YOU again! Kisses to Kahless !
You would be surprised! They have chicken flavored toothpaste which Marley will love! Heck I've been tempted to try the chicken toothpaste myself (LOL j/k). This will be a great bonding time for the two of you and you will be protecting her future health.

It's not so much that Mastiffs are more susceptible to plaque, it's that more awareness and studies have demonstrated the importance of canine dental care not just for the teeth but protecting the heart as well. Gingivitus causes heart problems. Gingivitus is not the only cause of heart problems, Samson has had has teeth brushed all his life yet when he was 9 (he's 10 1/2 now) he came down with congestive heart failure which causes an excessive build up of fluid in the lungs and thoracic cavity. He's on a wide range of prescription medication which costs $15 per day due to his large size. That's $450 per month in prescriptions just for Samson. He's doing quite well on his medical regime by the way. Over a year and a half ago his cardiologist said he only had 6 months to live.

Therefore, it's obvious that anything we can do when they are young to safeguard their future is time/money well spent.
Or try a chicken or a whole fish or better yet- a goat's head.
If that doesn't suit you then try water in her dry food bowl- the plaque will not build up as quick-
I just think that dogs in their origen did not travel with their handy-dandy toothbrushes. They scraped their teeth against carcass and flesh. Just some input from another perspective- Smile
(05-12-2010 07:55 PM)Mastifflover224 Wrote: [ -> ]Or try a chicken or a whole fish or better yet- a goat's head.
If that doesn't suit you then try water in her dry food bowl- the plaque will not build up as quick-
I just think that dogs in their origen did not travel with their handy-dandy toothbrushes. They scraped their teeth against carcass and flesh. Just some input from another perspective- Smile

Yuck! No way... You are certainly entitled to your opinions but no thanks. Just because dogs in their wild state, thousands of years ago, may have survived without proper veterinary and dental care does NOT mean that that's the way I will care for my dogs. Dogs in their so called "origen" [sic] lived a third to half as long a lifespan as they do today.

Here's a thought, toilet paper is a recent invention (late 1800's) - would you want to do without that? The Romans used a communal stick with a rag wrapped around the end to wipe their behinds and the same stick/rag was shared by everyone without cleaning - does that mean that it's more "natural" or "better." No thanks. The reason that they did so is because a couple thousand years ago people were ignorant; they were ignorant of microbes, bacteria, and viruses. So hygiene was unknown. Doesn't mean we should regress to a more "natural" state by any means.

Ever hear of progress? Our 10 1/2 year old who's suffering from congestive heart failure would not be alive today were it not for the Vetmedin he is on. This medicine wasn't available 10 years ago. Let's see, if I use your logic I should have let him die without his advanced pharmaceutical regime. Throw him a chicken or goat head and call it a day?

Dogs in the wild were never brushed or groomed or had flea or heartworm prevention. Should we abstain from that too? And while we're at it, let's cut out those "handy dandy" vaccinations - who needs them? Advances in knowledge and science have been applied to animals as well as humans - thank God for that. I for one will NOT be going back to prehistoric canine (non) care to me that is ridiculous. Dogs back then had much shorter life spans MUCH lower quality of life and that is simply not acceptable to me. I want the best care possible for my dogs and guess what - it shows.

Sure it takes a little time and energy to give proper and modern care but it pays dividends and improves the quality of their lives.

Thank you for sharing though. Big Grin

PS. Moist or wet kibble will actually INCREASE plaque buildup. Dodgy

This is as "primitive" as this one gets:
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